If Turner loses to JI Burton this year that puts us in . . .

[UnIoNfAn]

loosing barker wont hurt us as bad as people may think. In all honesty Mikia Davis is a better running back. 23 has put up more yards, tds, and is more of a threat than 12. Barker is powerful and tough but he fumbles way too much. He had two fumbles against Lee (one of em on the goal line), one or two against Richlands, and two against Clintwood (one of which led to a Clintwood TD). He is strong but teams are stopping him. Mikia on the other hand is a true sophomore and is burning it up, plus next season Zac Barker should be our QB and he has a missle of an arm. As far as loosing Orr, thats no loss at all. 77 or 79 (cant remember which one exactly) took Evan off his feet three times that i seen in the Lee and Union game. Richlands pushed him around like a rag doll. And he didnt do anything against clintwood to block or make tackles. IMO our best lineman is Dakota Jesse or that number 66 who is a junior. Union will be a different type of offense next season (or should be) but IMO will be better.

[MikMo]

IMO our best lineman is Dakota Jesse or that number 66 who is a junior.

#66 is my son, Matthew Morelock. He took a couple of years off after P-nut and this is his first year back. He has had a great work ethic since summer weightlifting and as a father, I could never be prouder.

[TheBeast]

#66 is my son, Matthew Morelock. He took a couple of years off after P-nut and this is his first year back. He has had a great work ethic since summer weightlifting and as a father, I could never be prouder.

You should have stayed in Breathitt.

[UnIoNfAn]

Travis will be a top of the line head coach. He isnt affraid to gamble on 4th (which i love), and he can get the kids fired up to play. My only fault is like i mentioned earlier, too many chiefs and not enough indians. Just like someone else said a minute ago, Travis is head coach and he'll take the heat for his coaching staff. As far as Austin being a better coach than travis, lets give it 5 years and revisit that statement. One problem we have down here in Unionville (big stone and appy's new name BTW) is we jump the gun. 14 state rings out of 18 trys i think it is has really spoiled us and im affraid that we may be to quick to crucify a young coach. Travis is younger than most coaches in the state and he was thrown into the biggest mess that has happened in wise county since the bread and chicken house closed in big stone gap. He (travis) has really got these kids to pull together and work out and be excited about football again! thats something that is worth more than a state championship on opening season. The problem that i have been seeing is that us older viking and bulldogs really want a winning team and well damnitt it takes time. Lets back up a pinch and let travis coach for 5 years. If after 5 years he is making the same mistakes and doing the same wrong things, then lets put him to the curb and look for a new coach. Until that 5 year period is up we cant say what kind of coach Travis Turner will be. IMO he'll do great

[1forall]

He won't be there in 5 years and he wasn't thrown in this mess isn't that right "Uncle Phillip"?

[lpd_observer]

Travis will be a top of the line head coach. He isnt affraid to gamble on 4th (which i love), and he can get the kids fired up to play. My only fault is like i mentioned earlier, too many chiefs and not enough indians. Just like someone else said a minute ago, Travis is head coach and he'll take the heat for his coaching staff. As far as Austin being a better coach than travis, lets give it 5 years and revisit that statement. One problem we have down here in Unionville (big stone and appy's new name BTW) is we jump the gun. 14 state rings out of 18 trys i think it is has really spoiled us and im affraid that we may be to quick to crucify a young coach. Travis is younger than most coaches in the state and he was thrown into the biggest mess that has happened in wise county since the bread and chicken house closed in big stone gap. He (travis) has really got these kids to pull together and work out and be excited about football again! thats something that is worth more than a state championship on opening season. The problem that i have been seeing is that us older viking and bulldogs really want a winning team and well damnitt it takes time. Lets back up a pinch and let travis coach for 5 years. If after 5 years he is making the same mistakes and doing the same wrong things, then lets put him to the curb and look for a new coach. Until that 5 year period is up we cant say what kind of coach Travis Turner will be. IMO he'll do great

five years is way to long to give somebody a chance. And you really have to clearly define what you mean by "being successful." We are now the biggest Group A high school in the Commonwealth. Success means competing for a state championship once out of every 4 years. The district championship is really meaningless, because they aren't our size, and it's only a slap in the face if you lose.

My biggest gripe deals with the fact that he was absolutely given the job. He had no head coaching experience. How can you possibly expect a man to undertake this job and be successful with NO HEADCOACHING EXPERIENCE. Palmer was an excellent choice. Adams would have at least been worth a call. Nick Colobro is all dressed up with no place to go. Hell, go after Barry Jones and ask him to come back.

The facts are these. We're going to grossly underachieve this season. In fact, we already have. Next year will be a down year. We will not be better, and probably will have a losing season unless something miraculous happens. I'm thinking 4-6 or 3-7. By year three, we need 8 wins, and 2 games deep into the playoffs. By year four, we really should be talking 4 or 5 games deep into the playoffs. This is not grade school day camp. This is NOT the job for him to learn as he goes. This is the job to take after you've established yourself as a good coach, not one to "grow into."

[1inStripes]

five years is way to long to give somebody a chance. And you really have to clearly define what you mean by "being successful." We are now the biggest Group A high school in the Commonwealth. Success means competing for a state championship once out of every 4 years. The district championship is really meaningless, because they aren't our size, and it's only a slap in the face if you lose.

My biggest gripe deals with the fact that he was absolutely given the job. He had no head coaching experience. How can you possibly expect a man to undertake this job and be successful with NO HEADCOACHING EXPERIENCE. Palmer was an excellent choice. Adams would have at least been worth a call. Nick Colobro is all dressed up with no place to go. Hell, go after Barry Jones and ask him to come back.

The facts are these. We're going to grossly underachieve this season. In fact, we already have. Next year will be a down year. We will not be better, and probably will have a losing season unless something miraculous happens. I'm thinking 4-6 or 3-7. By year three, we need 8 wins, and 2 games deep into the playoffs. By year four, we really should be talking 4 or 5 games deep into the playoffs. This is not grade school day camp. This is NOT the job for him to learn as he goes. This is the job to take after you've established yourself as a good coach, not one to "grow into."

This is not the job it would have been in the 90s. Just thought you may have forgot to add that on there.

[MikMo]

You should have stayed in Breathitt.

I would have rather been back here than in Kentucky any day. That hell hole just wasn't for me. I take it you were meaning that my son could be playing for Breathitt...would rather him be playing here any day. Also, they live with their mother, so he would be playing here anyway. Still wish it would have been for the Dawgs, though.

[TheBeast]

I would have rather been back here than in Kentucky any day. That hell hole just wasn't for me. I take it you were meaning that my son could be playing for Breathitt...would rather him be playing here any day. Also, they live with their mother, so he would be playing here anyway. Still wish it would have been for the Dawgs, though.

I know what you mean about that place. Yes I was referring to him playing at Breathitt, that town may be a pit but they have a very solid football program with a good coach that is able to get the job done. I was able to see them play one game last year and I thought I was watching St. Paul, same exact offense and same size kids just more of them (wished we had had them on the schedule to get the win and points). They were 6-4 and still went 3 deep in the playoffs last year and so far this year they are just running roughshod on everyone. The only close game they have had was against Hazard and they won it 35-34.

Best part about that place though is the McDonald's still has steak egg and cheese bagels.

[centennialdawg]

The biggest problem I have is that at least two of those assistant coaches NEVER played a day of football in their lives and those of you from BSG and APPY know the one I am talking about.

Now, the best thing I have seen out of the offensive line is that they have gone back to a 3-point stance to include the passing downs. The 2-point stance they used the last couple of years was horrible. And the defensive front is no longer taking a "dive at the legs of the offensive linemen as they did the last couple of years. If your offensive line is talented enough to use the 2-point stance, then use it, but most all offensive linemen in this area are not disciplined enough for it or just are not talented enough either.